Staying With What Hurts — Nikos Marinos
Staying With  ·  Founding Essay

Staying With
What Hurts

On what it means to remain present with difficulty rather than moving prematurely toward resolution — and why that distinction may be the most demanding one in relational life.

Nikos Marinos  ·  Relational Integrity Series

There is a moment that occurs, with some regularity, in the consulting room. A patient says something — something that matters, something that cost them to say — and the sentence lands in the air between us and stays there. I have learned, slowly and not always willingly, to notice what happens in my body in that moment. A slight forward lean. The forming of a sentence in my throat. The almost irresistible pull toward speech.

The pull is not malicious. It comes from something genuinely well-intentioned, possibly even from the same place that drew me to this work in the first instance. What I want, in that moment, is to be useful. To respond. To show that I have understood, that I am present, that what they have brought is not too much. And yet, if I follow that pull — if I speak too quickly, offer an interpretation, reach for a reframe — I find, more often than I would like to admit, that I have moved the conversation away from what was just said rather than toward it.

Something was there, and then it was not.

I have come to call this a rescue. Not in any dramatic sense — no one is pulled from the water. But something in me moves, in those early seconds, to reduce the gap between the patient's pain and some form of relief. I manage the difficulty rather than meet it. And managing, whatever its virtues in other contexts, is not the same as being with.

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Ivan came to see me in his early fifties, referred by a colleague who described him briefly as "resistant to the usual things." He was an architect — one of those people whose professional competence functions as both genuine achievement and impenetrable style. He solved problems for a living, and he was good at it, and that goodness had arranged itself around him like a way of inhabiting the world. He came to sessions prepared. He had usually identified, by the time he arrived, what the problem was and what the likely solution might be. What he was looking for, he told me in our first meeting, was someone who could help him "get through this faster."

The "this" in question was the deterioration of his marriage. His wife had told him, over dinner eighteen months before, that she no longer felt she knew him. He had received this — I heard it in how he told me — the way he might receive a structural report on a building: as information to be assessed, prioritised, and acted upon. He had suggested couples therapy. She had declined. He had read three books on attachment. He had proposed a holiday, a change of routine, a trial separation. She had agreed to the separation and moved to stay with her sister.

He was efficient and miserable and completely unable to stay with either one.

What Ivan brought to every session was a version of the same movement: identify the feeling, categorise it, plan a response, execute the plan, assess the outcome. Grief became a project. Loneliness became a scheduling problem. His wife's withdrawal became a puzzle with a solution he had simply not yet found. And the more energetically he pursued the solution, the further away it moved — because what she had named, that evening over dinner, was not a problem. It was an absence. She did not know him. She had stopped, at some point she couldn't quite locate, being able to find him in the room.

I noticed, working with Ivan, how often I wanted to redirect him. To say: but what do you feel about this? To bring him back from the architectural survey to something more interior. And I noticed how that impulse, however well-founded, was its own form of impatience. I was, in my own way, also moving. Also trying to get somewhere faster.

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We live, most of us, inside a profound intolerance of unresolved pain. This is not a failure of character; it is something closer to a civilisational arrangement. We have built institutions around the removal of suffering — medical, pharmaceutical, digital, therapeutic — and those institutions have trained us, in turn, to regard suffering as something that ought to be resolved, and preferably soon. To remain with pain, in this context, looks like passivity at best and masochism at worst. It looks like refusing help. It looks like choosing to stay in the burning building.

Therapy has not escaped this logic. In some configurations it has reinforced it. The drive toward insight, toward narrative coherence, toward the moment of recognition that will reorganise the past — these are not trivial ambitions, and they are not wrong. But they contain a temptation: the temptation to treat presence as a means to an end rather than as something worth its own attention. We stay with the pain in order to move through it. We tolerate the difficulty because resolution lies on the other side. The staying is instrumentalised. And instrumentalised presence is not quite presence at all.

What the patient often needs, before any interpretation, is the experience of not being managed.

Winnicott wrote about the capacity to be alone in the presence of another — a developmental achievement that requires, as its precondition, a reliably present and non-intrusive other. The infant learns to be alone because the mother is there without demanding anything back, without filling every silence, without converting her own anxiety into activity. What the child internalises is not the content of the mother's responses but the quality of her presence — a presence that bears the tension of not-knowing without immediately resolving it.

Something analogous, I think, is what the patient needs from the therapist. Not the absence of skill or intelligence or response. But the felt sense that their difficulty does not frighten the person sitting across from them. That it can remain in the room without immediately triggering the mechanisms of reduction. That they do not have to manage the therapist's anxiety about their pain on top of carrying the pain itself.

This is what I mean by staying. Not stillness as avoidance. Not silence as technique. Not the masquerade of equanimity. But a genuine tolerance — in the body, not just the theory — of another person's difficulty as something that belongs to them and does not need to be immediately taken from them.

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I want to be careful here, because this is where the argument is most liable to become its own kind of orthodoxy.

There are patients for whom staying, as I have described it, can become its own problem. People in genuine crisis, or whose circumstances are concretely dangerous, or who have spent so long with their pain that what they need, more than anything, is the experience of something changing. There are sessions where an interpretation, offered at the right moment and in the right spirit, opens something that no amount of patient silence could have reached. There are moments when the therapist's not-speaking is not tolerance but absence; when what looks like staying is actually a failure of nerve, a refusal of contact, an anxiety disguised as restraint.

Staying with what hurts does not mean the renunciation of all movement. It means that movement, when it comes, emerges from genuine contact rather than from the therapist's discomfort. There is a difference — felt in the body, audible in the rhythm of the session — between speech that comes from being with someone and speech that comes from needing the pain to stop. The first carries the patient further into their experience. The second, however skilled, carries the therapist away from their own.

Ivan, over the course of the following months, began to slow down. I would not say he became a different person. But there were sessions, toward the end of the first year, where he would arrive and simply sit for a moment before beginning. Where the report he had prepared gave way to something less curated. Where he allowed himself, once or twice, to say that he missed her — not as a variable in the equation of how to get her back, but as a simple and unbearable fact. His wife remained with her sister. The marriage did not recover in any conventional sense. What changed was something harder to name and arguably more important: he became, slowly, capable of inhabiting his own life rather than solving it.

I cannot claim credit for this in any straightforward way. What I can say is that the most significant moments in that work were not the ones where I offered an interpretation. They were the ones where I did not. Where I let what he had said remain in the room, and remain between us, and trusted that the staying itself was doing something — not resolving the difficulty, but changing the patient's relationship to it.

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There is a word — presence — that has been so thoroughly absorbed into the vocabulary of contemporary wellness that it has become nearly impossible to use without immediate suspicion. It arrives carrying too much — mindfulness retreats, corporate resilience programs, the injunction to "be here now" as a solution to the structural conditions that make being here now feel impossible. I am aware of that luggage, and I want to set it down.

The presence I am describing is not a meditative achievement. It is not the absence of thought or the dissolution of self. It is something closer to what Stephen Mitchell meant when he wrote about the analyst's engagement — a full subjectivity, brought into genuine contact with the patient's, without the one consuming the other. It is the capacity to be affected without being overwhelmed; to remain recognisably oneself while being genuinely moved. It requires, among other things, that the therapist has developed some tolerance for their own difficulty — some capacity, built over years and through their own analysis, to stay with what hurts in themselves without immediately reaching for resolution.

This is one of the reasons, I think, that supervision and personal analysis remain non-negotiable. Not to produce the ideal technique, but to ensure that the therapist's unprocessed material does not constantly interrupt the patient's. The therapist who cannot stay with their own pain will inevitably, despite every good intention, move to manage the patient's.

Jessica Benjamin writes about mutual recognition — the movement, in any genuine encounter, between asserting one's own subjectivity and recognising the full subjectivity of the other. What makes that movement possible is the capacity to tolerate the tension between the two: to be neither swallowed by the other's reality nor defended against it. This, too, is staying. It is the relational posture that makes genuine encounter possible — as opposed to the managed exchange of two people who are each, in different ways, protecting themselves from the full weight of being met.

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Outside the consulting room, the problem looks similar and is harder to name. We are less likely to call it rescue when we do it to the people we love. We call it support, or care, or concern. A friend arrives in distress and we make tea and offer perspective and suggest what they might do. A partner cries and we hold them and then, almost before the crying has finished, begin to explain why things will be different. A parent watches a child struggle and reaches — too quickly, inevitably — to smooth the path that the child needs to walk on their own.

The movement is human. It is also, so often, about us. About what we cannot bear to witness. About the anxiety that their pain produces in us and the speed with which we need it to stop. When we give advice to someone who did not ask for advice, we are not usually thinking about them. We are managing our own experience of watching them hurt.

None of this is criminal. The desire to alleviate suffering is not wrong, and there are situations that genuinely call for action, for practical help, for the kind of presence that expresses itself in getting things done. But there is a difference between helping because it is what is needed and helping because it is what we need to do. The distinction is difficult. It requires a kind of honest self-observation that is neither comfortable nor, in the moment of doing it, heroic. It requires asking, in the space of a breath: is this for them, or is this for me?

Staying with what hurts — with another person's hurt, and with our own — does not guarantee that things will improve. It does not produce, at the end of the session or the conversation, a visible result that can be measured. What it produces is something closer to a quality of contact: the felt sense, on both sides, that the difficulty was not managed away but actually shared. That two people were, for a time, in the same difficulty together without one of them frantically trying to exit it.

That experience — of being genuinely accompanied rather than efficiently handled — may be the most therapeutic thing one person can offer another. Not because it solves anything. Because it changes, at the level of the body and the nervous system and the accumulated memory of being with other people, what it feels like to be in trouble.

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I began this essay with a moment in the consulting room — the pull, the forward lean, the sentence forming before it was needed. I have not, in the years since I began to notice it, entirely stopped feeling it. The pull does not go away. What changes is what I do with it: whether I follow it immediately or pause, even briefly, to ask where it is coming from and what it is for.

That pause — a few seconds at most, undetectable to the patient, occasionally agonising — is where I think most of the real work happens. Not in the interpretations, however well-timed. Not in the theoretical frame, however useful. In the pause. In the moment of choosing to remain rather than to resolve. In the small and repeatable act of staying.

Ivan, in one of our last sessions, said something I have thought about since. He was talking about the night his wife had told him she no longer felt she knew him. He had gone over that conversation many times, always looking for the error — the thing he had said, or failed to say, that had changed everything. But that evening, in the session, something shifted. He said: I don't think it was anything I said. I think she could feel that I was somewhere else. That I was already solving it before she'd finished speaking.

He was quiet for a moment after that. I was quiet too.

There was nothing to add.